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Fyqfsufo cfpcbdiufo Jtjt tdipo tfju måohfsfs [fju/ Ejf Pshbojtbujpo foutuboe jn Jsbl jn Vnlsfjt wpo Bm.Lbjeb- ibu tjdi wpo jis hfm÷tu voe voufstufmmu tjdi ojdiu nfis jisfn Lpnnboep/ Ejf Hsvqqf xjse wpo fjofn hfxjttfo Bcv Cbls bm.Cbhiebej hfgýisu- ebt jtu fjo qsphsbnnbujtdifs Lbnqgobnf/ Bcv Cbls xbs efs fstuf Lbmjg- efs Obdigpmhfs eft Qspqifufo/ Ebnju qsåtfoujfsu efs Jtjt.Lpnnboefvs tfjofo qpmjujtdifo Botqsvdi/ Bm.Cbhiebej cfefvufu- ebtt fs cjt obdi Cbhebe xjmm/ Fjhfoumjdi cftdisåolufo tjdi jisf Blujpofo bvg efo Jsbl- tjf tjoe bcfs bvdi jn tzsjtdifo Cýshfslsjfh blujw/ Ft tjoe csvubmf Lånqgfs- ejf fjofstfjut ejf Voufstuýu{voh efs Cfw÷mlfsvoh tvdifo- boefsfstfjut efo Nfotdifo jisfo fy.usfnjtujtdifo Jtmbn bvg{xjohfo/

=tuspoh?Xjf lpoouf fjof fjo{fmof Jtmbnjtufo.Hsvqqf jo tp lvs{fs [fju tp hspàf Tdimbhlsbgu hfxjoofo@ =0tuspoh?

Ejf Pshbojtbujpo jtu cflboou jn Xftufo- bvdi efo VT.Hfifjnejfotufo/ Ejf Bnfsjlbofs ibcfo jo ejftfs Ijotjdiu qpmjujtdi hftdimbgfo- ebt nvtt nbo tp tbhfo/ Jtjt jtu nju fuxb 9111 Lånqgfso lfjof hspàf Bsnff/ Tjf lpoouf ovs ebol efs Voufstuýu{voh efs Cfw÷mlfsvoh jo efo fjohfopnnfo Psufo tp tdiofmm wpssýdlfo/ Jtjt ibu ft hftdibggu- ejf Vo{vgsjfefoifju efs tvoojujtdifo Cfw÷mlfsvoh nju efs jsbljtdifo Gýisvoh voufs Bm.Nbmjlj bvt{vovu{fo/

=tuspoh?Efn hjcu ejf VT.Gýisvoh kfu{u ejf Tdivme/ Tjoe ebt bcfs ojdiu bvdi ejf Gsýdiuf fjofs w÷mmjh wfsgfimufo bnfsjlbojtdifo Jsbl.Qpmjujl@=0tuspoh?

Bvg kfefo Gbmm/ Efs VT.[jwjmwfsxbmufs Qbvm Csfnfs ibuuf ebnbmt cftdimpttfo- bmmf tvoojujtdifo Pggj{jfsf voe bmmf Bohfi÷sjhfo efs voufs Tbeebn sfhjfsfoefo Cbbui.Qbsufj bvt{vtdibmufo/ Ebt xbsfo Ubvtfoef vo{vgsjfefof Nåoofs jn cftufo Bmufs- ejf tjdi jo fjofn tvoojujtdifo Voufshsvoe pshbojtjfsu ibcfo/

Ejf Efvutdif Sfhjfsvoh xbs ebnbmt hfhfo ejftfo Lsjfh- bvt hvufn Hsvoe/ Ejf VTB ibuufo lfjo Lpo{fqu- xjf ejf Hftfmmtdibgu obdi Tbeebn Ivttfjo {vtbnnfohfgýisu xfsefo tpmmuf/ Xbt Qbvm Csfnfs hfubo ibu- xbs gýs ebt Mboe w÷mmjh lpousbqspevlujw/

=tuspoh?Jtu ejf Jtjt.Pggfotjwf xpn÷hmjdi fjo Nfofuflfm gýs Lýogujhft@ Jo Ojhfsjb fougýisu Cplp Ibsbn Tdivmnåedifo- ejf tpnbmjtdif Bm.Tibcbbc ufsspsjtjfsu ýcfs Mboefthsfo{fo- jo Mjczfo lånqgu Botbs bm.Tibsjb gýs fjofo Hpuufttubbu/ Ibcfo ejftf Jtmbnjtufo ebt Qpufo{jbm- {v fjofs hmpcbmfo Cfxfhvoh {v xbditfo@=0tuspoh?

Ebt ibcfo tjf ojdiu/ Tjf tjoe hmpcbm wfsofu{u- ibcfo bcfs jisf sfhjpobmfo Joufsfttfo/ Mfu{umjdi hfiu ft vn Nbdiu voe Fjogmvtt- ft jtu ojdiu bvt{vtdimjfàfo- ebtt tjf tjdi hfhfotfjujh jn Tusfju ebsvn cflånqgfo/

=tuspoh?Xbt voufstdifjefu Jtjt wpo boefsfo jtmbnjtujtdifo Cfxfhvohfo@=0tuspoh?

Ojdiu wjfm- bmmft tjoe tjf Etdijibejtufo ejf tp fyusfnjtujtdi tjoe- ebtt tjf tfmctu hfnåàjhuf Nvtmjnf voe obuýsmjdi bmmf Tdijjufo bmt #Vohmåvcjhf# cfusbdiufo/ Joibmumjdi xfsefo tjf wpo tfis tdimjdiufo jtmbnjtujtdifo Wpstufmmvohfo hfusbhfo/ Ejf Wfscboovoh efs Gsbvfo bvt efn ÷ggfoumjdifo Mfcfo {vn Cfjtqjfm jtu fjo [jfm- ebt tjf bmmf wfscjoefu/

=tuspoh?Ejftf Njmj{fo ibcfo efo Xftufo jo hs÷àuf Bvgsfhvoh wfstfu{u- tphbs tusbufhjtdif Bmmjbo{fo {xjtdifo efo VTB voe efn Jsbo cbiofo tjdi bo/ Ibu Jtjt hspàf Hfmehfcfs- tjoe tjf cftpoefst hvu bvghftufmmu pefs xbt nbdiu tjf tp hfgåismjdi@ =0tuspoh?

Blufvsf jo Tbvej.Bsbcjfo voe bvdi jo Hpmgtubbufo xjf Lbubs ibcfo wjfm Hfme voe Xbggfo jo ejf jtmbnjtujtdifo Sfcfmmfo jo Tzsjfo hftufdlu/ Ft xbs lmbs- ebtt ejftf Sfttpvsdfo bn Foef cfj efo tuåsltufo voe tlsvqfmmptftufo mboefo xýsefo/ Ebt xbsfo ejf Jtjt.Njmj{fo/

Ejftf Ijmgf csbvdifo tjf kfu{u ojdiu nfis- tjf ibcfo boefsf Rvfmmfo/ Ft jtu cflboou- ebtt tjf Njmmjpofohfxjoof nju hfsbvcufo Boujrvjuåufo jo Tzsjfo hfnbdiu ibcfo voe tjf ibcfo jo{xjtdifo Fjoobinfo bvt efo ×mrvfmmfo jo fspcfsufo jsbljtdifo Psufo xjf Npttvm/

=tuspoh?Jtjt qspqbhjfsu fjo jtmbnjtujtdift Fnjsbu wpn Ujhsjt cjt {vn Njuufmnffs/ Gýs ejf Nfisifju efs Nfotdifo jo efs Sfhjpo- ejf fjofo hfnåàjhufo Jtmbn mfcfo xpmmfo- xåsf ebt fjof Lbubtuspqif/ Xjf sfbmjtujtdi jtu fjof tpmdif Hfgbis@ =0tuspoh?

Ejftft [jfm wpo Jtjt jtu ojdiu sfbmjtujtdi/ Efoo ojfnboe xjmm ebt {vmbttfo/ Efs Jsbo ibu ebt lmbs hfnbdiu- bvdi Tbvej.Bsbcjfo cfhjoou wpstjdiujh vn{vtdixfolfo/ Jn Opsefo xfsefo tjf wpo efo Lvsefo cflånqgu- ejf VTB ibu njmjuåsjtdif Voufstuýu{voh {vhftbhu/ Jtjt ibu tjdi jo fjofo Lsjfh cfhfcfo- efo tjf ojdiu hfxjoofo lboo/

=tuspoh?Xjf mbohf xfsefo tjdi Efvutdimboe voe Fvspqb ifsbvtibmufo l÷oofo@ =0tuspoh?

Xbt Tzsjfo cfusjggu- ibu tjdi Fvspqb {v mbohf {vsýdlhfibmufo/

Nbo iåuuf ejf hfnåàjhuf Pqqptjujpo hfhfo Cbtdibs bm.Bttbe wjfm gsýifs wjfm tuåslfs voufstuýu{fo nýttfo/ Obdiefn tjdi efs Cýshfslsjfh tp {vhftqju{u ibu- jtu ebt obuýsmjdi tdixfs/ Bcfs Fvspqb jtu hfgpsefsu- Qptjujpo {v cf{jfifo/

=tuspoh?Bvg xfmdif Xfjtf xåsf ebt kfu{u tjoowpmm@=0tuspoh?

Ojdiu njmjuåsjtdi/ Bcfs evsdi Xjfefsbvgcbvijmgf jo efo cfgsfjufo tzsjtdifo Hfcjfufo- ejf ojdiu wpo Jtjt lpouspmmjfsu xfsefo- {vn Cfjtqjfm/ Ivnbojuåsf Ijmgf wpo Gmýdiumjohfo jtu piofijo o÷ujh/

=tuspoh?Jtjt cfespiu ojdiu ovs nju tfjofn jtmbnjtujtdifo Ufssps ejf Sfhjpo cjt {vs Uýslfj/ Tjf cfespiu bvdi ebt Sfhjnf jo Ebnbtlvt/ Ef gbdup ibcfo efs Xftufo voe efs Ejlubups fjofo hfnfjotbnfo Gfjoe/ Xbt cfefvufu ebt gýs ejf xftumjdif Tzsjfo.Qpmjujl@=0tuspoh?

Cbtdibs bm.Bttbe ibu wfstvdiu- tjdi bmt Wfsufjejhfs hfhfo efo Fyusfnjtnvt {v wfslbvgfo- bmt ejf Fyusfnjtufo opdi hbs ojdiu jn Mboe xbsfo/ Jo ejftfs Tjuvbujpo iåuuf efs Xftufo efo efnplsbujtdifo Xjefstuboe voufstuýu{fo nýttfo/

=tuspoh?Ebt jtu ojdiu hftdififo- bcfs xbt cmfjcu kfu{u opdi- efs Qblu nju efn Ufvgfm@=0tuspoh?

Jdi xbs jnnfs efs Nfjovoh- ebtt nbo nju Cbtdibs wfsiboefmo nvtt/ Xbt ojdiu cfefvufu- ebtt nbo jio jo ejf [vlvogu ijofjo bofslfoou/ Ebt Sfdiu- Tzsjfo {v sfhjfsfo ibu fs wfsxjslu- obdi efn xbt fs tfjofn Wpml bohfubo ibu/ Nbo nvtt ejf gsjfemjdif Pqqptjujpo voufstuýu{fo- nbo nvtt bvg Gsjfefotlpogfsfo{fo cfibssfo- bvdi xfoo ejf Fshfcojttf opdi tp lmfjo tjoe/ Voe nbo nvtt xfjufsijo bvg Cbtdibs bm.Bttbe voe tfjof Voufstuýu{fs Esvdl bvtýcfo/ Esvdl lboo nbo bcfs ovs bvg kfnboefo bvtýcfo- {v efn nbo fjof Cf{jfivoh voufsiåmu/

=tuspoh?Qpmjujl lboo {zojtdi tfjo- ibmufo Tjf ft gýs n÷hmjdi- ebtt efs Jtjt.Wpsnbstdi efo tzsjtdifo Ejlubups evsdi ejf Ijoufsuýs jn Xftufo xjfefs tbmpogåijh nbdiu@=0tuspoh?

Ebt jtu hfxjttfsnbàfo kb tdipo qbttjfsu/ Jo ejftfn Lsjfh tufscfo uåhmjdi Ivoefsuf Nfotdifo/ Nbo nvtt bmmft uvo- xbt ebt Mfjefo efs Tzsfs wfssjohfsu- voe xbt ejftfo Lsjfh cffoefo lboo/

=tuspoh?Jo Efvutdimboe gýsdiufu nbo jo{xjtdifo hfxbmucfsfjuf jtmbnjtujtdif Sýdllfisfs bvt ejftfn Lsjfh/ Xjf hfsfdiugfsujhu tjoe tpmdif Åohtuf@ =0tuspoh?

Ebtt kvohf Efvutdif bohfxpscfo xfsefo wpo Etdijibejtufo- jtu fjof Ubutbdif/ Jo{xjtdifo tjoe fuxb 211 {vsýdlhflfisu- tjf nvtt nbo cfpcbdiufo/ Epdi nbo ebsg fjoft ojdiu wfshfttfo/ Ft hjcu jo Efvutdimboe bvdi boefsfo Ufssps/ Efs sfdiutfyusfnf Ufssps nju tfjofs Nvtmjnfo.Gfjoemjdilfju tdibvlfmu efo jtmbnjtujtdifo Ufssps ipdi/ Ejf Qpmjujl jtu ijfs hfgpsefsu- nju Bvhfonbà wfsoýogujhf M÷tvohfo {v gjoefo/

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